Premades ... -.-

What I think is a little surprising that we had some heated discussions about twinks but the issue of pre-mades is left rather untouched thus far.

Yes in lower BGs you can encounter twinks that are undefeatable 1-on-1 for a normal geared player. But well, after a while I found out that it's basically the same in the 70s. My lvl70 epic PvE specced priest is just as much a free kill as a lvl23 in greens is for a twink.

On top of that, both sides have some twinks in most cases, so even when you're outgeared by a few players, the teams are still even.

But now there's premades. Imo it's a lvl70-all-twink group that greatly spoils the BGs you enter. Want to try to do a AB during the AB weekend? The game starts, in 50% of the cases you see all 15 opponents are from the same server and you lose 0-5 with 0 or perhaps 20 honour, 0 kills, lots of deaths.

Personally these are by far the worst PvP experiences. Far worse then when I was killed by twinks in the lower bracket BGs. Because you could still win, and teaming with a few others it was still possible to defeat a twink. And with some effort, communication and luck you could still win a match.

With pre-mades they work together so well (probably teamspeak or vent) that you don't stand any chance. Imo it would be better if they would get their own league and wouldn't be matched with pugs.

What's your thoughts on this?|||1. Suggest Blizz to only allow premade to premade. However, there is a way to form a cross realms premade. Also, do you consider it is a premade or pug if 10 ppl in premade + 5 in pug? It would be hard for Blizz to implement only premade to premade.

2. Get in a premade yourself if possible.

3. If you are not in a premade, queue in 3 different BGs and join the non-premade BGs.

4. If you are unlucky to enter a premade (the other side), fight as usual in the begining and you might win sometimes. If you got overrun and GY camped in the 1st min or 2, don't rez because they are doing honor farming. The pain will be over in 5 min.|||Quote:








1. Suggest Blizz to only allow premade to premade. However, there is a way to form a cross realms premade. Also, do you consider it is a premade or pug if 10 ppl in premade + 5 in pug? It would be hard for Blizz to implement only premade to premade.

2. Get in a premade yourself if possible.

3. If you are not in a premade, queue in 3 different BGs and join the non-premade BGs.

4. If you are unlucky to enter a premade (the other side), fight as usual in the begining and you might win sometimes. If you got overrun and GY camped in the 1st min or 2, don't rez because they are doing honor farming. The pain will be over in 5 min.




This.

In all honesty, I wish they would make it Premade vs. Premade only. I'm a casual PvPer, and I participate in Premades that are one step above Trade Channel pugs - I do it for fun, to meet people, and to bring our server closer together. Some of the most fun I've ever had with them is going up against Nathrezim, Frostmane or Dragonmaw (pvp servers) premades and leading the team to victory.

Granted, it's sometimes fun to roll a pug and 5/4 cap in AB/EOTS... but it's not exactly what I'd call challenging or rewarding, and assuming a dedicated premade rolls 10 games a day, 15 players are being satisfied at the expense of maybe 150+ players.|||well, they want to farm honor in a efficient way. Noone can blame them, specialy with blizzard implementing better and better items for normal BG honor.

there are actualy very few premades that are realy experienced in playing together. Most premades are formed in trade channels and didnt play together longer than the day you meet them. The only advantage i see is that they maybe have teamspeak. And that they usualy are a group of 15 people that are willing to cooperate and listen to their leader unlike most PuG's.

the only way around this would be to have a arena like system for BG's aswell. But this would be realy hard for the players, because you would have to open teams and play with the same 15 ( Eots ) to 40 ( AV ) people every time to keep a team ranking etc... I guess this would mean much much much less Bg's.|||Personally I think Premades would be all fine and dandy, if it they were limited to 5 people (a single party, not a raid).|||Quote:








Personally I think Premades would be all fine and dandy, if it they were limited to 5 people (a single party, not a raid).




Um, what the heck is a premade? There was some blithering about it in Stormwind tonight, but it made no sense except that one guy kept yelling 'Yer gonna get banned!!!!' They said it was an addon?????????|||Quote:








Um, what the heck is a premade? There was some blithering about it in Stormwind tonight, but it made no sense except that one guy kept yelling 'Yer gonna get banned!!!!' They said it was an addon?????????




That prolly was about doing premade raids to AV.

There are some addons, which allows your whole raid to join the queue at the same time, providing that they all have the addon, and have the "join battleground queue" window open when he clicks the extra "join as a group" button the addon delivers.

This is not something you should get banned for (GMs are not the end of all), but a lot of people think so.

Premades to other BGs, just make a group, and click the "Join as a group" button in the "join BG Q" interface.

It's much more fun. even if you only play with a friend or two.|||Oh, OK, thanks. Only tried BG once and was a spectacular failure and fled, shouts of 'noob' in my wake. So It's not something I'd need or use, then.|||I'm really surprised no-one really seems to care about premades while emotions rise so high about twinks. :s|||I dont see what the problem is with letting 10 or 15 friends play together. Isnt this a MMORPG? Groups of friends join the game to play together. Why stop them from doing that?